the devs made their own game studio and moved on to other projects, nothing about this game is publicized in their discord or on their website so it's safe to assume it's abandonware
I've asked for opensource in discord and no response(probably they will not open it just because there a lot of work done and maybe they will return to it in future).
I've modified a bit Alfa 0.9 version(more enemy for each wave (x2, x3, x4), more time between waves to build more defense and economy, possibly will add some more features like longer storms, more or even endless waves ), I did it just because wanna play more in this game) So if someone wanna - I can share it.
This game is not good, this game is perfect, only 1 problem, it was abandoned or discontinued, the last update was almost 2 years ago, okay maybe the current pandemic slow it down.
APPARENTLY, FROM WHAT I HEARD, robbie stopped working on the game because it was too complicated, not enough time. But I would like an answer from the creator himself
Just found out about this game yesterday and it's great! No bugs found so far, level 4 here. Amazing job. Looks like They Are Billions but with many differences and atmosphere
So far I really like the game at its current status and look forward to more development. I'm only about 10 minutes or so into the current build but I would already ask the following:
* please do not take camera control away from the player even when a tip pops up
* also would like to have it not tell me where to build a building during the tutorial, but would rather have a suggested area. I've restarted the game a couple of times because I would place a building where it suggested I place it, but then it would act like I didn't place a building somewhere. though this seems to happen mostly when I rearrange the roads so that the traffic flow is more to my liking. I have taken a screenshot if you'd like to see what I mean
* also please add windmills for power generation, the windmills would be able to generate power when the sandstorms come
* I just wanted to add the UI is top notch. clean and straight forward
There seems like a bug where I created my mining station and when I resumed the game the mining station was not producing any ore despite of have electricity , road connection and manpower.
Can you guys please make an update that adds only an endless mode if nothing else? Give the game some longetivity and some soft marketing from people on youtube getting absurd wave counts
This is seriously Alpha version? This really seems like a full game already! And it seems very cool! Although I gotta say, didn't you get an inspiration with They are billions? It seems, in a way, little bit similiar
Love this game! It gave me nostalgia of the days when I played starcraft I and II. Defending and building, keeping everything balanced, it all feels great! The way new towers, buildings and options are unlocked by playing really feels rewarding too. The only thing I'd say is a shame is the difficulty curve; maybe I need to get gud :P but around the levels when you unlock the missile launcher and the fertilizer I was just stuck.
Maybe adding different difficulty options?
All in all, phenomenal job! Thanks for the nostalgia :)
this game is absolutely fucking terrible, the second mission glitched and it wouldnt let me get past the "connect 3" part. after that i paused it and tabbed out to find a fix but it froze on me, i tried to close it with the task manager but it blue-screened my computer. DO NOT INSTALL!
bsod is very unlikely to be caused by the game. bsod is more often than not caused by defective hardware or driver bugs. Never applications. Come to think of it, an application can only cause bsod, if it hits a bug in the windows kernel.
Well, it could be a nice game....but i would prefer it if i could build and perfect the base WITHOUT time pressure or random bugs .... just let me build my base and defence WITH NO PRESSURE....if it stays like this, it quiet honestly sucks
The tutorial is horrible... however once the game stops ordering you around and forcing you to build where it tells you, its quite good.
If the game gets another update, please stop taking camera control away from the player, and rather than, "Build here." just have a "Does the player have X many of Y buildings. It is really obnoxious to have to build where your told when the game is about efficiency.
Oh and again I can not stress enough, the game is really good once you get past the tutorial stuff.
For some reason I cant build mutiple mines for the qeust in the first mission either the placement is very specific and I just cant get it right or its bugged anyone know what to do?
This game is a hidden masterpiece! Absolutely love the texture and effects graphics along with the highly satisfying gun/turret shot sounds! Thanks to Raptor I found this.
A very honest (and favored) feedback:
Sure a few things could be added strictly for the luxury part of gameplay like extra hotkeys, better info on power storage & usage (I like to connect my guns to whole separate power line network away from the colony, so I would love to be able to see the power info for that specific network)
ONLY ONE PROBLEM - The game freezes and crashes randomly during a mission. Which would be fine if we had the option to save in middle of a mission but right now you have to repeat the whole mission only to have to game crash again, which is why I had to stop playing after reaching some of the tougher missions.
With that one problem solved I think this game would perform extremely well on platforms like Steam and net "big profits" as the Senior Assistant to the Deputy Manager to the Regional Manger likes to ramble about. :)
I have attempted the second level of the campaign a few times now, and for some reason each time I try it when I get to the part where you are meant to build a hospital, but for some reason each time the game has not given me the ability to build it.
Does Second Earth require to run within the x86 directories? There doesn't seem to be any documentation on the proper way to install the game...unless I am mistaken and I simply missed it.
You using Nvidia Optimus by any chance? It looks like it's nvd3d9wrapx.dll which is causing it to crash. This seems to only be installed on systems which use Optimus. I remember a few years back this was causing problems for a few games where it wasn't switching display adapters correctly. And the log shows that the renderer it's trying to use in the Intel one (which is probably not able to run the game). It does complain about not being able to run shaders.
I'm sure you've already tried, but make sure your graphic drivers are up to date. Failing that, see if you can force the nvidia GPU to be always on instead of it having to switch.
I'm cheering for this game, I would really love for it to succeed! It's so much fun, but oh so frustrating! And by frustrating I mean wayyy too hard. I know some people love that, but I would really like it if it was possible to choose difficulties. Also it would be cool to see different types of goals! For now, the only goal is to survive the waves after waves of creatures, but it would be cool to see some terraforming levels (with terraforming the area being the goal). I don't know if these should be with or without the attacks of the creatures, but it would be nice to get a break from all the stress! Maybe a few creatures here and there to keep you on your toes would be nice.
But all in all an amazing game, I absolutely love it!
i LOVE this game... it made me skip a night of sleep... i had to take a day off of work.. it was well worth it.
Already in this Alpha version i see some things which you did much better than was done in any other building games i played. ...maybe you call Alpha... what others would call: `open Beta, thoroughly playtested, bugsplat, polished and nearly finished.`
Other games depend on limitations to make things challenging, whereas this game just seems to have very well designed levels.
The road system is very nicely done (click and drag to change directions.. and.. no errors)
full refund when demolishing... i never realized how much more fun this brings until i experienced it... stored resources are lost ofcourse... in most cases exactly as you would expect.
I like how you can pause the game, demolish basically everything and then build a different set up... and it feels like this is actually what the game ultimately requires you to do until you are rich enough to build a permanent city which is save from the local inhabitants with only minor maintenance... this game gives a lot of freedom with regards to longer term planning and i like that.
Failing a level makes me want to try again, because it is fun to find a proper strategy (either the clearly hinted strategy, or a different one)
... i saw comments about power malfunction during sandstorms ... after 1 very long day of playing it think that is not a bug... but not sure yet.
Sector A9 is perfect as it is, the map offers various possibilities to beat it (at least, i think it does.. i will find out next weekend :-)
Anyway... i cant wait to play the final version when it is released... these tutorial missions alone are already a better game than some other games in their entirety.
i guess you don´t need it anymore by now, but if it would help you, i could give more extensive feedback. ... i would rather play than type... but since you shared this game free of charge, the least i can do is show my appreciation.
so here it goes: thank you! i have been playing video games for about 30 years and it is rare to find a game as enjoyable as this one.
I've just played my first full completion of this game and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I think that you could use say, F1,F2, and F3, to select Infrastructure, Society and economy, and Defence, respectively. And then maybe numbers or letters, to select choices within these sections. eg. t=truck and m=mine. I'm looking forward to more...O j O
Bug or documentation issue: capacitors don't work during storms? Even when I have sheer amounts of energy in the batteries, immediately after a sand storm begins all my weaponry that requires energy stops functioning, only soldiers from garrisons and mortar towers keep shooting. Shouldn't the capacitors provided energy during storms?
Does the game have a Coop Mode or something like that? If not, here is a Example for u guys <3 Maybe each player is playing against everybody else (like mods in Star Craft 2) Sending Units against the others. Idk why Games are always Singleplayer cuz this is a type of a game that easily could have a Multiplayer or Coop Mode.
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man i hope a fan gets rights to make more updates cause this was amazing
Shame the game was abandoned. It had alot of potential.
Hallo
can I have a link to the alpha 0.8?
Unfortunately, I have overwritten my version during the update, and now I have a quiet other game.
I'm not sure which version I was playing, but in mine there was no video included.
is this game still in dev ?
Nope. The developers gave up on it without any notice. Maybe they died? It happens.
the devs made their own game studio and moved on to other projects, nothing about this game is publicized in their discord or on their website so it's safe to assume it's abandonware
Man that sucks. they make good games too in my opinion, this one woulda been cool.
they have a discord, maybe if asked nicely the devs would open source it
I've asked for opensource in discord and no response(probably they will not open it just because there a lot of work done and maybe they will return to it in future).
I've modified a bit Alfa 0.9 version(more enemy for each wave (x2, x3, x4), more time between waves to build more defense and economy, possibly will add some more features like longer storms, more or even endless waves ), I did it just because wanna play more in this game) So if someone wanna - I can share it.
Hope you guys are able to publish on steam! Yall deserve it.
so, what's been happening with this recently?
game's too big, on hold.
A starship troopers referance? in the description of the game?!? This looks like its right up my ally!
If work, please do it to finish.
Do you can release the map editor and players will complete it ?
This game is not good, this game is perfect, only 1 problem, it was abandoned or discontinued, the last update was almost 2 years ago, okay maybe the current pandemic slow it down.
APPARENTLY, FROM WHAT I HEARD, robbie stopped working on the game because it was too complicated, not enough time. But I would like an answer from the creator himself
My other considerations:
-There should be more waves per level, that way the game become "longer", more fun and gives space to create a larger base.
-Time between waves should be longer, currently there is little time to manage and gather resources.
-I've found difficulty to increase at very high steps in the last levels.
My considerations: Add map editor, add endless mode, upgrade units (each map make points and have a upgrade tree)
Just found out about this game yesterday and it's great! No bugs found so far, level 4 here. Amazing job. Looks like They Are Billions but with many differences and atmosphere
So far I really like the game at its current status and look forward to more development. I'm only about 10 minutes or so into the current build but I would already ask the following:
* please do not take camera control away from the player even when a tip pops up
* also would like to have it not tell me where to build a building during the tutorial, but would rather have a suggested area. I've restarted the game a couple of times because I would place a building where it suggested I place it, but then it would act like I didn't place a building somewhere. though this seems to happen mostly when I rearrange the roads so that the traffic flow is more to my liking. I have taken a screenshot if you'd like to see what I mean
* also please add windmills for power generation, the windmills would be able to generate power when the sandstorms come
* I just wanted to add the UI is top notch. clean and straight forward
There seems like a bug where I created my mining station and when I resumed the game the mining station was not producing any ore despite of have electricity , road connection and manpower.
Can you guys please make an update that adds only an endless mode if nothing else? Give the game some longetivity and some soft marketing from people on youtube getting absurd wave counts
This is seriously Alpha version? This really seems like a full game already! And it seems very cool! Although I gotta say, didn't you get an inspiration with They are billions? It seems, in a way, little bit similiar
Love this game! It gave me nostalgia of the days when I played starcraft I and II. Defending and building, keeping everything balanced, it all feels great! The way new towers, buildings and options are unlocked by playing really feels rewarding too. The only thing I'd say is a shame is the difficulty curve; maybe I need to get gud :P but around the levels when you unlock the missile launcher and the fertilizer I was just stuck.
Maybe adding different difficulty options?
All in all, phenomenal job! Thanks for the nostalgia :)
this game is absolutely fucking terrible, the second mission glitched and it wouldnt let me get past the "connect 3" part. after that i paused it and tabbed out to find a fix but it froze on me, i tried to close it with the task manager but it blue-screened my computer. DO NOT INSTALL!
bsod is very unlikely to be caused by the game. bsod is more often than not caused by defective hardware or driver bugs. Never applications. Come to think of it, an application can only cause bsod, if it hits a bug in the windows kernel.
rip this game lol
I dont see the Robbie Fraser answer the comments from the Covid 19 infected on the US.
Plse talk something for we know you healthy.
A very good game with a mixed of RTS and tower defense, with some ingenuity defensive concept. Found some bugs, how do I report them?
Is this dead? There has been nothing for over a year now.
yeah, sadly, checked the discord. The team moved on to other projects like Terra Nil, really hyped for it too!
Well, it could be a nice game....but i would prefer it if i could build and perfect the base WITHOUT time pressure or random bugs .... just let me build my base and defence WITH NO PRESSURE....if it stays like this, it quiet honestly sucks
Bro, the games a tower defence, the point is to build your base with the bugs! Not without them!
Use your brain. And if you don't like it, find another game.
The tutorial is horrible... however once the game stops ordering you around and forcing you to build where it tells you, its quite good.
If the game gets another update, please stop taking camera control away from the player, and rather than, "Build here." just have a "Does the player have X many of Y buildings. It is really obnoxious to have to build where your told when the game is about efficiency.
Oh and again I can not stress enough, the game is really good once you get past the tutorial stuff.
For some reason I cant build mutiple mines for the qeust in the first mission either the placement is very specific and I just cant get it right or its bugged anyone know what to do?
This game is a hidden masterpiece! Absolutely love the texture and effects graphics along with the highly satisfying gun/turret shot sounds! Thanks to Raptor I found this.
A very honest (and favored) feedback:
Sure a few things could be added strictly for the luxury part of gameplay like extra hotkeys, better info on power storage & usage (I like to connect my guns to whole separate power line network away from the colony, so I would love to be able to see the power info for that specific network)
ONLY ONE PROBLEM - The game freezes and crashes randomly during a mission. Which would be fine if we had the option to save in middle of a mission but right now you have to repeat the whole mission only to have to game crash again, which is why I had to stop playing after reaching some of the tougher missions.
With that one problem solved I think this game would perform extremely well on platforms like Steam and net "big profits" as the Senior Assistant to the Deputy Manager to the Regional Manger likes to ramble about. :)
I have attempted the second level of the campaign a few times now, and for some reason each time I try it when I get to the part where you are meant to build a hospital, but for some reason each time the game has not given me the ability to build it.
I saw a video of some gameplay and thought I'd give it a try.
I downloaded the game, unzipped it to a file on my desktop, and ran the executable.
I start a new campaign, watch the video and the game crashes - consistently, every time.
I then moved the file to my program files, then (x86), but the same result each time.
I couldn't get pastebin to work so I used google docs instead to post the logs:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pgIMopnYfs0kATvBe6BsejZD0YvRSGCaoM1ueex3QpM/...
I'd like to give the game a go, but I need to be able to start it first :(
Any help?
You don't happen to have a 32 bit x86 system do you?
I have Windows 7. So, it has the x86 capacity.
Does Second Earth require to run within the x86 directories? There doesn't seem to be any documentation on the proper way to install the game...unless I am mistaken and I simply missed it.
It's made for a 64 bit system, so x86_64. If your OS is 32bit (x86 and not x86_64) it will not run: it doesn't matter which directory it's on
You can check by right clicking on my computer and going to properties and looking for either 32bit or 64bit
I have a 64-bit system. The game launches and gets through the opening video, but then crashes after the video ends.
You using Nvidia Optimus by any chance? It looks like it's nvd3d9wrapx.dll which is causing it to crash. This seems to only be installed on systems which use Optimus. I remember a few years back this was causing problems for a few games where it wasn't switching display adapters correctly. And the log shows that the renderer it's trying to use in the Intel one (which is probably not able to run the game). It does complain about not being able to run shaders.
I'm sure you've already tried, but make sure your graphic drivers are up to date. Failing that, see if you can force the nvidia GPU to be always on instead of it having to switch.
Good luck
Thank you for your response. I just ran the Second Earth.exe file using my Nvidia GPU, but the game still crashed at the same place. :(
I'm no expert but if you post the latest log I could have a quick look over it. Also could you tell me what GPU you have?
Can you make a wins 32 version? I want to play it.
I'm cheering for this game, I would really love for it to succeed! It's so much fun, but oh so frustrating! And by frustrating I mean wayyy too hard. I know some people love that, but I would really like it if it was possible to choose difficulties. Also it would be cool to see different types of goals! For now, the only goal is to survive the waves after waves of creatures, but it would be cool to see some terraforming levels (with terraforming the area being the goal). I don't know if these should be with or without the attacks of the creatures, but it would be nice to get a break from all the stress! Maybe a few creatures here and there to keep you on your toes would be nice.
But all in all an amazing game, I absolutely love it!
i LOVE this game... it made me skip a night of sleep... i had to take a day off of work.. it was well worth it.
Already in this Alpha version i see some things which you did much better than was done in any other building games i played.
...maybe you call Alpha... what others would call: `open Beta, thoroughly playtested, bugsplat, polished and nearly finished.`
Other games depend on limitations to make things challenging, whereas this game just seems to have very well designed levels.
The road system is very nicely done (click and drag to change directions.. and.. no errors)
full refund when demolishing... i never realized how much more fun this brings until i experienced it... stored resources are lost ofcourse... in most cases exactly as you would expect.
I like how you can pause the game, demolish basically everything and then build a different set up... and it feels like this is actually what the game ultimately requires you to do until you are rich enough to build a permanent city which is save from the local inhabitants with only minor maintenance... this game gives a lot of freedom with regards to longer term planning and i like that.
Failing a level makes me want to try again, because it is fun to find a proper strategy (either the clearly hinted strategy, or a different one)
... i saw comments about power malfunction during sandstorms
... after 1 very long day of playing it think that is not a bug... but not sure yet.
Sector A9 is perfect as it is, the map offers various possibilities to beat it (at least, i think it does.. i will find out next weekend :-)
Anyway... i cant wait to play the final version when it is released... these tutorial missions alone are already a better game than some other games in their entirety.
i guess you don´t need it anymore by now, but if it would help you, i could give more extensive feedback. ... i would rather play than type... but since you shared this game free of charge, the least i can do is show my appreciation.
so here it goes: thank you! i have been playing video games for about 30 years and it is rare to find a game as enjoyable as this one.
I've just played my first full completion of this game and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I think that you could use say, F1,F2, and F3, to select Infrastructure, Society and economy, and Defence, respectively. And then maybe numbers or letters, to select choices within these sections. eg. t=truck and m=mine. I'm looking forward to more...O j O
Hi. Good day to you
Did you finish the free mode?
Or anything new updated. Waiting for you. Pls release part to part you finished.
Hi Robbie !
Sorry but I think you repeat my post. Today I check all the post on itch.io and no thing like that.
Anyway, I found the version you release the 6-11-2020 and has completed 3 event. After all, the game continue without any event.
Could you release the edit tool for map edit and event maker ?
Great game, good job.
Bug or documentation issue: capacitors don't work during storms? Even when I have sheer amounts of energy in the batteries, immediately after a sand storm begins all my weaponry that requires energy stops functioning, only soldiers from garrisons and mortar towers keep shooting. Shouldn't the capacitors provided energy during storms?
Does the game have a Coop Mode or something like that? If not, here is a Example for u guys <3 Maybe each player is playing against everybody else (like mods in Star Craft 2) Sending Units against the others. Idk why Games are always Singleplayer cuz this is a type of a game that easily could have a Multiplayer or Coop Mode.
Greetings from Germany
Is the game still in development? Because this game has a huge potential and i cant wait when new content comes. When will the next update come?
Btw. Will there come shield projectors or something like that?
The project is still being worked on every day. No plans for a new public build on itch atm. Shield domes have already been added!
Cool to hear that! I tried a couple of similar games on Steam, but none was as interesting as this one.
Please add endless mode, or a map editor mode, game is really good that it got me till morning playing.
Thanks for play Sttabers! We're working on this kind of thing.
Maybe add a game mode?
Can you be more specific about which game mode(s) you would like to see?
maybe a customizable hoard-mode? a sort of freeplay so to speak